Dulas - Origin Of My Name

by Tomasz Dulas
(Berkshire)

Llys Dulas Woodland, Dulas Anglesey

Llys Dulas Woodland, Dulas Anglesey

Dear Wil


I have searched the web for my name and I found your web page.

Could you tell me more about the origins of the Dulas name or redirect me to someone who knows more about it please?

I was wondering where is my name coming from and that could be a clue.

Thank you for your help.

Regards

Tomasz Dulas




Dear Tomasz

Thanks for getting on touch.

A very good question indeed.

It could be that you were named after a feudal Welsh Prince who escaped Edward 1st and fled to Europe.

On the other and you might not.

Please allow me to research the source of the name for you and I'll be back in touch in a few days.

Maybe one of our other visitors would like to contribute as well.

Warmest regrds

Wil

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Feb 21, 2016
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Dulas orgin
by: Yvette Dulas

I am uncertain of the exact spelling,Dulas is derived from Greece the long version of Dulas is Dulavaries.My great grand fathers name was Al.

Jul 03, 2015
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Surname of 'Anglesey'.
by: Drewy bach

Interesting surname of 'Anglesey'. Indeed, even in the 1800's people would change their surnames according to conveniences quite significant. Tracing 'trees' I found a 'Leonard Baker' who was in fact a baker. Digging further back I found his prior surname to be 'Probart' I mentioned this to my Great Aunt Marcie born 1899 and died 1999 aged 100 and six months ! and she reiterated with no prompting from me, when I mentioned "Leonard Probart" she added "He was a baker and changed his name to that." Probart, Leonard, died young in 1809 and so even in this recent time, surnames could change, at least in this instance. Add the amusing name of Bastard, pronounced "bass TAHD" acceptable in its 'day'until the 20th century, the family condensed it to Bass ! so sayeth my Gt. Aunt, Ivy Bass !.

Jun 18, 2015
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Vampy
by: William

Dear Vampy

You could be related to the Marquess of Anglesey?

Your Honour

Best wishes and thanks for taking the time to write. I expect friends out there will be back with an answer for you.

Wil from Anglesey Hidden Gem

May 12, 2015
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Anglesey as a Surname
by: Vampy

My family name is Anglesey and I am curious to find out how we got it :)

Apr 09, 2015
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Dulas.
by: Drewy bach

First of Du and Las flashes up as 'black'-du and 'las'-blue. Post a battle, maybe someone was left "black & blue" ? Also, some Viking terms got into the Anglesey language for sure at some point. "Dublin" is Viking for 'black - du, and b'Lin - lake. Welsh Llyn and Viking 'Lin' compare. Just a musing. Words, boat, brook, water, have Viking and Anglo bases.

Old Anglo for 'laake' was 'Ledge'. One can see in telephone directories, someone with the amazing surname of "Blackledge" - a name with and from a particular place and especially time in Britain and can be easily located.

Jan 28, 2015
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Interesting info
by: Patrick

Dualas seems to be a rare name. I have checked the meaning of this name on internet but not able to find much details. I am pretty sure that this name is related to Greek mythology.

Jan 19, 2013
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Wondeful acount of Celtic words.
by: DREWY 'BACH'.

Thank you Tom' Dulas for the historic accounts of Celtic names. Much enjoyed. Drew.

Jan 19, 2013
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Ynglyn a Dulas.
by: Anonymous

Please bear in mind that Cymraeg is a 4000yr old language & during that time has been subject to change.

2000 yrs ago the Romans wrote about us, but unlike the Saeson (Saxon)they never changed place names. Our country is still called Prydain,meaning we have the pres(bronze)Mon is simply a geographic location as in Ynys Manaw (Manx),Ynys Mon, Arfon, Mynwy (Monmouth), Defon(Southern Mon).

As for Cork(Corkaish)or Cors in Cymraeg it means swamp.

Also, bear in mind the Celts inhabited most of Western Europe throughout this time; inc. all of the British Isles. Evidence of this is in the fact that all our rivers have retained their Celtic names usually containing wye(slow), dof(tame), don (wave).

European rivers also,Dover(dwfr-water),Rhine(rhinwedd-best points)Danube(doniau-talents),Mosel(moesol-high morals.

The meanings of these Cymreig words are plain & I dont think that musing about some Viking connection (after all they were bloody savages & they did not inflict us with their prescence for long!) only confuses things.

Jan 19, 2013
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Dualas - A Rare Name
by: Anonymous

your name is quite rare, according to http://locatemyname.com/name/Dulas only 12 people have it

Feb 21, 2012
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Similarities and differences.
by: Andrew Weare

"Du" is Welsh for 'black'. 'Las' is the Welsh, softened for Glas and glas / Las means 'blue'.

In an interesting context, the Vikings founded Dublin and so named the settlement as such, in their own language, herein the very name - Dublin.

From the word 'Du' and the word 'Lin'and like the Welsh word for 'black' - that is to say Du we find also that the Viking tongue has Du also meaning likewise 'black'. Further correspondence is that the Welsh for 'lake' is Llyn and the Viking for lake is 'Lin'.

Compare: Welsh for 'black lake' or blacklake we will find 'Llyn Ddu' or conjoined Llynddu.

Viking for Black lake is "Du'b Lin'.

Of note, the Western Europeans say, Anglo-Saxons, would often give bleak names to watery places. Take Fermoy in Co.Cork where we find little imagination behind the "River Blackwater" that runs thru Fermoy.

Look at a brook in Winter..it really can be quite "black" and uninviting to swim in..nay "dark" and forboding..for not too many could swim..

In the telephone directories of today, you may well find a list of well kept surname/s as "Blacklake or more likely "Blackledge"..Lin, Llyn and Ledge..

If Black is a denser form of blue then little wonder my musings will take me to ''black & blue" here. So "Du Las" in the contexts I give here in reference to Welsh & Viking gives us Scandi-Celtic relations by language similarities evoked here.

Anglesey Welsh would certainly carry some linguistic correlations. The Vikings'- reknown for some fierceness, settled for length of time on Anglesey and, both the Anglesey-Welsh, or Ynys Mon Cymro, allied themselves to the Vikings.

This was a matter of reinforcements to protect each other from another batch of raiders extending towards Anglesey or 'Ynys Mon'- viable agricultural land, and these new and considerable new raiders were the follow-ups post the Norman Invasion of 1066.

The Viking-Welsh allies of Anglesey were alerted to an oncoming invasion of a strong contingent of Norman-Anglo soldiers. Each came to a face-off at the sands of the Menai Straits, by the Beaumaris-end.

The allied Viking-Welsh were led by "Magnus The Barefoot",/b>. The Norman-Anglos were led by the "Earl-of-Chester". As far as ironies go, or, to those who think "what goes around comes around" ..the "Earl" comes from the Viking word "Jarl" and "Norman" comes from 'Norseman'..yes, 'Normandy' too was a Viking settlement!

You may pause to groan at this irony...even a deadly irony. The first strike of the battle came from and with the weapon in Magnus's hands as a preceding 'truce' brought together both he and the earl.

Once at close quarters in No-man's-land, the Earl was struck a fatal blow and Magnus looked more and even more, the leader of the day. The Earl's men fled all told..eastwards.

Andrew Weare
(Alaska)

Feb 20, 2012
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Dulas
by: tyn-cae@hotmail.co.uk

Du Las is not simply black blue, but Du (dark) Glais (gash or gap) which describes the location. There are many such places called DOUGLAISH or DOUGLAS throughout the U.K.




Annwyl gyfaill,

That's my education about Anglesey and the rest of the United Kingdom expanded nicely.

Thanks for getting in touch and please do so again.

Lovely to hear from you.

Nos da,

Wil

Mar 18, 2011
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What's in a name?
by: Wil

Dear Tomasz Dulas,

I knew that my friend 'Drew from Alaska would help. In fact I now recall that he has already written about Dub-Lin previously.

I hadn't even thought about the obvious Welshness of breaking down the word into its constituent parts. It's the end of the week and I'm tired and that's my excuse.

If your name is derived from Drew's proposal the that would suggest a Celtic/Welsh link.

Mind you, your name 'Du Las', might also be derived from French. I'm not helping much here and can't think of a French word 'Las'.




Beaumaris - Menai Straits


Menai Straits at Beaumaris





On another note, 'Drew talks about the fighting by the Norsemen at Beaumaris or on the opposite bank of the Menai Straits. The old name for Beaumaris, pre-dating the Norman influence, was, I believe, Porth Wygyr, Essentially, this means either 'Port of Vikings' or 'Place of Vikings'.

Tomasz, have you traced your family's journey yet?

Keep in touch and we'll see where else we end up.

Thanks 'Drew

Wil




Mar 18, 2011
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Ddu, Du, Dwr and
by: Drew in Alaska.

'Dulas'...the first thing in my head is 'Du' and 'Las'. Du or Ddu in Welsh means 'Black'. 'Glas' and possibly 'Las' means 'Blue'.

My theory is then that Du-Las' means 'black & blue'. Maybe the Ancients knew that the colour black is really an intense form of blue, fact. Black birds feathers reveal such.

Old Britain references to 'black' were / was, applied to watery places. Take 'Dublin' in Ireland, for instance, a name of Viking coinage please note, where the 'Du' means also 'Black'and the 'Lin' means 'Lake, or A lake'.

Along the Welsh Border we can find a place-name of 'Blackledge'- a likely Anglo name, which also means 'Black lake".

Some people in Britain have the surname 'Blackledge'which would hint at their families' origins. Not to forget that Welsh for 'Black Lake' is Llyn (Lake ) and Ddu or Du meaning 'Black' in some kind of linguistic kinship with Welsh here. "Llyn Ddu" = literally reads 'Lake Black'...say 'Black lake' of course.

One noted Viking on Anglesey (from the Viking leader 'Ongle' and the Island itself, 'island' in Viking is "Sey'..Ongle's Sey..corrupted into "Anglesey )..As I say, of note was the Viking leader on Anglesey named "Magnus the Barefoot" who, with a Welsh contingent, slew and defeated the 'Earl of Chester' near the sands of the current Menai Straits near the Beaumaris end, but on the mainland.

Magnus struck first personally killing the 'Earl'..another title of Viking origins ironically, usually spelt 'Jarl'(history of the Orkneys) and 'Earl' when the Norsemen (more Vikings) settled in 'Normandy' ( Norse man dy ).

Yes, the 'Normans' were Viking settlers of old.

Question; Why were watery places ascribed to as 'black'. Look at the unimaginative name of the "River Blackwater" at Fermoy, Co. Cork. Water is colourless, yet in Winter to look at, a brook can appear as if the water is black during this somewhat Sun free season, as opposed to clear in Summer where fish could be seen clearly.

Such distinctions the Ancients would make, for the abundant eels and fish to many was a staple. Staples were not seen in "black" water.

'Drew

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